Advice for Bladder and Bowel Accidents

The author and owner of this website is Psychologist Robert W. Collins, PhD, PC who published the first ever practical treatment manual in 1998 for Encopresis (The Clean Kid Manual) now in its Fourth Edition.  He pioneered the first major placebo comparison test for the bedwetting alarm (1973) for enuresis (bladder accidents) and has published The Dry Bed Manual.  His biography is available under “About the Doctor” on the Soiling Solutions website. 

 

Dr Collins will respond to questions or comments about enuresis and encopresis submitted to this website.  It would be helpful for the reader if you would submit your question giving a near-by large city, your state, and your country.  This will help to show how wide spread this problem is.  Initials may be substituted for all names.  Sex, age, and relationship to the child should be set forth in your question.  Submit a question.

A 3 y/o child and a mother and father already exhausted by the major treatment approach to encopresis and looking for hope.

Question: 

I have a three year old son who has been holding in his poop since he was 11 months after getting extremely constipated. We have been seeing a encopresis specialist up here in Edmonds, WA who uses the runny stool method to retrain the child that stooling doesn't hurt. He is on lots of miralax, mineral oil and fletcher's laxative. His stomach constantly gurgles and it is so distended that it looks like he is going to explode. He is always grumpy and always nervous about his poop which leaks out all of the time because it is so runny. I really want to know of alternative ways to deal with this. My husband and I are so exhausted with this and we need some hope and really feel like the specialist we see is not helping our son. We do not want to keep medicating him. No child should have to feel sick in his stomach for years of his life. Please help us!

Answer: 

Leslie—I see that you have ordered Clean Kid Manual (CKM-IV).  It is on the way to you.  Also, I have already entered you onto the exclusive Soiling Solutions Parents’ Forum where you will love the 300 or so parents who are or have been on the same treatment protocol. They are very supportive and insightful.  I am assuming that your encopresis specialist is a Pediatric Gastroenterologist (PedGI) which is the top medical specialty that addresses encopresis or functional fecal retention.  It is very unusual to see a young child on such a complex oral medical “cocktail.”  That could well be contributing to all of the gurgling and distension that you are observing.  Your note that the specialist is using “…the runny stool method to retrain the child that stooling doesn’t hurt.” may be narrowly accurate.  I am sure he is hoping that removing the pain will somehow magically allow the child to begin sitting on the toilet and start up his voiding reflex.  Not so, not a chance, I am the learning theorist here, actually he is training failure!  The voiding reflex arc requires a voiding urge signal going up to the brain which then messages back to the anal sphincter mechanism to “release” the prepotent more automatic holding reflex.  By assuring “runny stool” he is sabotaging a discrete, timely stimulus to the brain and an inability to hold until the voiding reflex is learned and established while sitting on the toilet stool.  The child won’t be able to control leaking and gassy expulsions because the urge stimuli are so intermittently confusing and mixed in the “top down” approach.  No wonder your child is “…always grumpy and always nervous about his poop.” The subcutaneous membrane at the end of the colon cannot distinguish between gas and liquid stool.  You need a normal solid stool at the end of the colon to send clear, discrete urge stimuli up to the continence center.  The Soiling Solutions (SS) protocol was the first and to this day the only available encopresis treatment manual available to the general public that can be done in the home using generally safe over the counter agents.  Yes, it features a more aggressive approach to encopresis using timely brief sits, suppositories, and enemas on a carefully worked out schedule as required for a daily treatment hour. Think of it, using a suppository or enema primer will almost immediately create powerful discrete voiding urge signals shortly followed by a very difficult to resist voiding response. That empties him out sufficiently in most cases so that he will be continent for the following 23 hour period when you redo the SS treatment hour.  Do this repeatedly and you will have successful toileting learning trials making the stimulus-reflex connection every day!  So simple!  Most children will stop having accidents within two weeks, though the protocol may have to be continued for a longer period for the conditioning to become truly reliable.  Relapses can occur, but they are much less likely with this protocol and you can always reapply the SS treatment and the children know this and will trust it and you.

I suggest that you should at least be monitored by a local physician as you proceed for any medical concerns that may come up.  Sadly, many parents have come to distrust and lose faith in their doctors on this issue and proceed without consulting them.   A physician should be at least be “open” to your trial of the SS protocol and be supportive of your efforts.  Many can learn from you parents.  I will attach a report of my recent medical journal article on SS and editorials concerning it in a separate email to you.  Frankly, it may take 20-30 years for my protocol to more effectively become adopted into general medical practice.  Most cultures are very inhibited in talking about this very private area of the body and dealing with a highly offensive body product.

A 7.5 year old boy with a world-wide issue of encopresis in Canada

Question: 

Hi there,
I'm losing my mind here in Toronto , Canada . Our 7 ½ year old boy seems to have been toilet training for over five years now. We've seen doctors and they have given us Lactulose and most of the time it works but then he seems to get really bad for a stretch until he clears out again. I'm desperate for a clinic or something in Toronto . You'd think the Hospital for Sick Children would have something. I'm going to try to find your book. It's just been so hard and the poor wee guy says he can't help it and my husband doesn't fully believe him... it's just awful. And my husband fights me on how much medication to give him -- I find more works better than less. Help. Karen

Answer: 

Karen—Your dilemma is not restricted to Toronto, it is literally world-wide.  The most common onset of encopresis everywhere is associated with toilet training.  It truly is absolute misery for all concerned because we are dealing with a private area of the body and an extremely offensive body waste product which is quite literally a biohazard.  If you keep reading on in this column you will learn that your son has overlearned the prepotent holding response which all of us engage when we get voiding urges or signals.  It is our immediate, top level response!  He has had some promising periods of adequately following up with the voiding reflex to stay clean, but this has never become sufficiently reliable.  Wouldn’t it be terrible if he is erring on the side of holding because of Dad’s not buying into his not being in control?  He could be over trying, and once holding gets started for any reason (and that may not be dad’s fault) he truly does not have control.  Perhaps he is a very busy child and hates to be interrupted to brush his teeth, wash his hands, or go to the bathroom.  We just do not know, the consequences are often way much greater than the often completely innocent initiating cause(s).  Lactulose is simply a sugar-based hypermolar agent which draws fluids from the surrounding tissues into the colon to keep the stools soft.  It was probably the most popular stool softener until Miralax came along.  Virtually 99% of docs are stuck on the top down softening route to assure that the stool moves along and that the child does not get backed up and get a blockage that might require hospitalization and medical evacuation of his colon.  Basically, you are on “maintenance therapy” and assurances of “He will grow out of it.” However this has worn thin for you both and you have been extraordinarily patient and hopeful.  No child or family should go beyond a sixth year without a truly effective bowel retraining protocol.  There are psychological and physical consequences of not being more aggressive when that becomes necessary.  That is why I wrote the Clean Kid Manual some 11 years ago.  It is only available from my website at www.soilingsolutions.com or a few professionals out there who purchase them in discounted lots for use with their patients.  You will have access to the SS Parents’ forum with a purchase from my website store where you will find 300 or so parents from around the world who have already successfully used the manual or are currently using it.  I will attach a copy of my medical journal article on the Soiling Solutions protocol along with editorials concerning it in a separate email.  I will also attach a photo of my toilet trained cat.  Check out www.soilingsolutions.com/megacolon.htm where I forcefully and in great detail address the issue of encopresis or functional fecal retention.

Concerned Grandma for soon to be high school boy with encopresis and divorced parents.

Question: 

My grandson has had soiling since he was 6 years old and continues to do so.  His parents are divorced and so do not see eye to eye on different methods to treatment that have been tried with no real results to stop the problem.  He will be entering high school in Sept. and the kids at school are talking about his odor, and he doesn't want to go to school.  They have had a few doctors who are not familiar with encopresis and tried several attempts, but they do not specialize in it and this has become very fustrating to the parents.  We need help, and would like to know if you can recommend a doctor here Hartford, Connecticut that specializes in this field to help this child.  My heart breaks for him because he really doesn't know he has done it and is even to the point where he doesn't smell it anymore.  Its like someone wearing deodorant, after a while the scent is the same.  Whatever you can do to help us, I would appreciate.  The parents are not into reading about it and want to make contact with a specialist.  The doctors that have been giving it a try are not knowledgeable about this problem, its a hit or miss with them.  PLEASE HELP.

Answer: 

Beverly—You are asking for a referral to a Pediatric Gastoenterologist (PedGI) in the Hartford area for your grandson who will be entering high school in September.  I keep a list of possible referral sources at www.encopresis.com, but have trouble getting additional referrals on to that website.  Nothing is listed for the Hartford area.  Any readers here are welcome to suggest resources that I can add to the encopresis.com site so that I can update it.  Sadly the presence of two divorced parents on different pages do not predict well for a positive outcome.  The stress of encopresis may even have contributed to a divorce.  Getting the parents on the same page might be helped by a manual that they could share or have separate copies to follow.  There were no published detailed manuals for parents in treating encopresis until I prepared the Clean Kid Manual (CKM) in 1998 and started up www.soilingsolutions.com.  The parents cannot expect magic from the current practices of the PedGI community.  The docs are pretty stuck on “maintenance therapy” and uselessly repeating,  “He will grow out of it.”  They offer no real solutions.  There is no relevant surgery or medication.  A more aggressive approach in a home-based program is necessary.  The parents will have to do the scut work themselves in their respective homes or give one parent the permission to do the major intervention in one household.  The child’s age is also an issue because he will have to be cooperative and have to do the self-administration of suppositories and enemas that the SS program requires.  He may be ready for a solution and the specific, definitive steps in the CKM may offer him hope after years of failure.  The parents are going to have to come to terms with an agreement that is in the best interest of their child.  Consistency and mutual parental support is absolutely critical, this is no time for sabotage or undercutting the other.  The presence and support of the parents on the SS Parents’ forum will also be critical.  Grandma Beverly may have a special role to play with encouraging her grandson to comply with the SS protocol.  Many of the SS parents have children of his age who are very happy at having halted soiling issues within 2 weeks if there is complete compliance with the protocol.  All of the adults and the child should read the manual(s).  Sorry to be so “bottom-line” and brusque, but we are talking of your grandson’s future here.  I will send you an attachment of my medical journal article and editorials about it which will take 20 or so years to permeate into general medical practice.  Keep reading the Q & A below and you will gain further insight.

A frustrated Iowa mother with an outstanding 7th grade girl who rejects her help.

Question: 

We are to the point that we can't even talk about it without getting into arguments so it isn't addressed as it should be due to upsetting conversations. She is a beautiful, smart, athletic 7th grader that has everything going for her other than this issue. Her father and I divorced about a year ago and he will not deal with it at all so when she goes to his house every other weekend, nothing is accomplished. The most recent dr has told me she is the worst case she has seen due to her attitude about it. Gets hateful when anyone tries to help, etc. with it. I can't believe her classmates/teammates haven't found this out and that would be her ultimate embarrassment. Please help!

Answer: 

Michelle—How so very sad, that is quite a box that you two find yourself in with little means to climb out of it.  But, there is a way.  You would be so encouraged by the moms on the Soiling Solutions (SS) parents’ forum who support and advise one another using the Clean Kid Manual (CKM).  There are many children your daughter’s age and even older who finally gathered themselves together to take on the encopresis monster.  Your daughter sounds like a remarkable person who is forging ahead even with this problem.  Think of what she could do without this monster on her back!  Her attitude would very likely improve.  You will have to be very courageous and determined to proceed.  Your daughter will have to be very courageous and determined as well.  Right now she has intimidated you and needs to be confronted with structured advice and a protocol which will have her soil free inside of 2 weeks.  She has had advice that has never worked before doing the same old same old!  This should have been addressed aggressively and with certainty some time ago.  The docs have emphasized “maintenance therapy” with stool softeners like Miralax or Lactulose and when that did not work they added, “There, there now, she will grow out of it”.  Yeah, right!  Your daughter has given up on gaining control for good reason, it has never worked!  Why try?  Reminders only make her feel like a failure, and being who she is, she is absolutely going to reject that.  Everyone feels like a failure on this particular issue.  She needs hope, a strong mama bear, and a protocol that works.  Keep reading the questions and answers below and go to www.soilingsolutions.com for more information.  You and hopefully she will be encouraged and be able to climb out of that box.  Your relationship will be vastly improved if you can follow through with the SS protocol and gain a grateful daughter.  There is no other alternative out there that can be done in the home.  Remember those other moms out there who have done this and wish to help you.  I will send you a copy of my recent medical journal article and editorials regarding it.

 

An 8 y/o in Tennessee with persistent encopresis.

Question: 

Chatanooga TN
My grandson in 8yrs old, he will be 9 in May, he has been battling encopresis since he was 4, Right after his baby sister was born. Originally we thought it was a behavior issue due to the new baby, but it has continued and gotten worse not better. He has been to two gastro. doc's who say the same thing, he will grow out of it and keep him on laxatives. At least once a month he has to go thru a cleaning out process with the use of exlax laxatives, (the whole box). He eats well and plays with no issues but he will not let you know when he has had an accident. I have purchased so many new underware of all sorts to see if it will help, but it doesn't. When he is at my house I can not take him anywhere in public because he constantly has poo on him (honestly) and it always smells really bad so there is no desiguising it. 1) why wont he let me know when he has had an accident? 20 Will he truly out grow this?

Answer: 

Debra—The birth of his baby sister could have been an initiating cause.  It does not take much to trigger the holding response.  It is just that once it gets started it may become firmly established and resistant to change. The holding response is our initial and predominate response to bowel urges.  This is normally followed by going to the bathroom and initiating the voiding response.  The response of the doctors is very disappointing, but very typical.  The medical profession’s initial response is to make sure that the stool is softened and moved along the colon.  An obstruction could result without such aids and result in a harsh clean out or even hospitalization.   After a time they can only encourage you to continue “maintenance therapy” and assure you that he will grow out of it.  They resist or don’t know about a more aggressive approach which should have been initiated by the time your child was 6 years of age.  I really can’t criticize them.  They are very busy, hardworking professionals and my writing is not well known. I basically developed that more aggressive approach and it has been published in a medical textbook and in a medical journal article of which many would not be aware.  I will attach the article for your information.  My basic protocol was first published as a manual in 1998 and was the first manual to ever have been published for any approach to encopresis.  It is resisted in general by the culture and the medical profession because it does rely on suppositories and enemas, at least initially, to prime the voiding response until it becomes more reliable and the child’s body and brain take it over.  This is a case of learning by actually doing successful voiding following an increase in awareness of his voiding urges.  Your grandson cannot help what he is doing and denial is a natural reaction. There is no other really reliable option available to you that can be done in the home.  If you order the Clean Kid Manual you will also have access to other parents who are using it and who will be happy to assure and guide you.  Do not try to guess my protocol on your own or from the medical journal article.  Timing, support from the parents, materials, procedures, and explanations are all important.

Adjusting Miralax for a 6 y/o boy in Texas and frequent setbacks.

Question: 

I'm a mom from Texas with a six year old boy who has had encopresis since he was four.  We tried the miralax and it cleaned him out, but then just gave him runny poop all the time.  I never could find a dose that worked for him.  I finally stopped.  This seemed to help he began to poop in the potty.  The problem was he would only go once a week.  He still has the occasional leakage, usually a few days before he poops.  I was wondering if there was something I could give him that would help him be more regular, but not cause runny poop?

He also regresses when ever we go out of town and visit family.  I understand this could be partially because he is in a different place and we are doing different things than normal.  Is there away to stop these regressions? 

Answer: 

Christy—Yes, it is very difficult to adjust Miralax to a point where you don’t have constipation with hardened stools or go to the opposite extreme of “…runny poop all the time.”  Your solution of going over 3 days without pooping is not desirable and will inevitably wind up with an enlarged and weaker colon causing potential physical problems later on.  You may see more irritability and oppositional behavior as he “fills up”.  The occasional accidents, even just once a month for 3 consecutive months still meets the definition of encopresis.  The regressions that you observe when you have a change in his environment are not unusual.  Our daily BMs typically become a “habit” as to the place and time of day, maybe with the assist of eating or coffee which can “prime” our holding-voiding reflex sequence.  Observe yourself or your husband if you take a trip, go camping, or go through a busy, stressful period and see if your voiding becomes delayed until normal stooling reasserts itself.  You could give your child an enema following two full days of holding as a stopgap measure to prevent excessive backing up.  But, if you do that, you may as well follow a more rational training program such as that set forth in the Clean Kid Manual-IV (CKM-IV) and join with other parents using it or have used it successfully and remain on the Soiling Solutions (SS) forum.  Access to that forum is free upon ordering the CKM-IV and it is exclusive to keep treatment issues more focused based on the manual.  Read on below for more insights.  Thanks for your questions.  My email reply to you was rejected, so please write to me again if you wish a copy of my medical journal article and a couple of editorials regarding it. 

Clarifying the diagnosis of encopresis for a 4 y/o daughter in Kentucky

Question: 

I am from the Louisville, KY area. My 4 y/o daughter has been fully potty trained for a year, potty and BM's. A few months ago she got a slight tear around her anus which caused pain when she had a BM.  This started the "holding it in" issue.  Because she was holding it in, her BM's became impacted and difficult to pass.  We started Miralax and other oral medications and also prune juice.  After several weeks, her BM's became softer.  Now they are so soft (majority of the time) but still are not "normal" like she had had before this problem starts.  My question is.... since her BM's are soft is this still considered Encopresis.  I feel like we need to get her bowel's back to "normal" before we can reach a diagnosis but we are reaching no resolve.  Will her bowel's return to normal and could this be an allergy?  Or can i expect her to sit on the toilet even when she has a soft BM?  Our doctor tell us to continue using Mirlax and slowly decrease as it improves.  Have not weaned her off Miralax.  The minute i forget to give her Miralax, her bowels are hard and difficult to pass.  I feel like we are in a wicked cycle here.
Thanks for any advice.
jennifer

Answer: 

Jennifer—The central definition of encopresis is behavioral, not “medical.” Often much effort and expense is expended in “ruling out” physical causes leaving 90-95 per cent of children with the essential problem remaining.  This is why it is termed a “functional disorder.” This often frustrates parents and doctors, who want a clear cut physical cause.  However, physical factors do come into play.  Encopresis is simply defined as soiling once a month in inappropriate places after age 4 years.  So if she still has fecal accidents you have encopresis.   Yes, the “holding it in” issue can start for almost any reason, but pain is often a major factor as our muscles tend to contract in response to pain and psychologically we avoid pain.  Once the holding response becomes “over activated” or “over conditioned” to voiding signals it just becomes automatic and less subject to willful control.  An enlarged colon or mega colon then results which results in physical inefficiency for pushing the foodstuff along.  The holding response simply will not give way to the voiding response which should follow.  Hence, your insight about a “wicked cycle” is right on target.  Add Miralax, a very popular stool softener intended to make stool passage easier, and you add a much greater likelihood of accidents because the stool becomes too soft and “liquidy” and harder to recognize by the body.  Normal hot dog like stools are much more easily detected at the end of the colon, but now you have the problem of the “over holding” predominating again.  There is no way around it, the actual voiding response has to be retrained to become more dominant and assert itself over the holding response.  Your doctor is assuming, like the vast majority of them do, that the voiding reflex will have a fresh automatic “restart” and take over again.  I hope he is right, but that may be only 40-60 per cent of the time at best.  Allergies and diet factors come into play in only 5 per cent of the cases of encopresis.  I encounter a lot of parents going into elimination diets, adding certain foods, etc. in hopes of “magic” happening.  My Soiling Solutions (SS) protocol set forth in the Clean Kid Manual (CKM) has received international attention, but it is still very strongly resisted because it involves the use of suppositories and enemas in a carefully stepped fashion designed to foster the child’s own cues and the appropriate coordinated holding and voiding responses to take over.  I wish you the best of luck, but definitely do not ever let this problem persist to 6 years of age.  Many parents can’t stand it going on for that long, but too many do out of fear and their own inhibitions about dealing definitively with this area of the body.  If you continue reading you will see horror stories about how very ordinary parents get trapped.  Do not buy into a physician’s assurance that your child “will grow out of it.”  Take control of this issue, your child may resist strenuously, but she will be grateful that you are truly parenting and acting in her best interests. 

A Texas 13 y/o and Dad in Denial Over Encopresis.

Question: 

I'm sorry this is so long but I have to get this question out there as soon as possible and please help if you can. My name is Shannon and I live near Dallas, Texas. My boyfriend has a 13 year old son and I have a 9 year old daughter, both children live with us and we moved in together about 9 months ago. The entire time we've all lived together, while sorting laundry, I've noticed the boy's underwear caked or saturated with feces biweekly, sometimes weekly, and often times the back portion of the toilet seat would have feces caked on the rim. I understand that accidents happen but his lack of regard for the one that cleans these areas (me) made me so angry that I talked to his father about it so that he could correct the issue afraid that I may humiliate him if I should confront him myself. He talked to his boy about cleaning a mess if he makes it but the behavior continues, it's been going on for months now and it's no big deal to them (my boyfriend says that it's always happened, calls the feces 'skid marks' when its clearly more) but I feel that this is a serious issue and it's to the point that it's jeopardizing my relationship with my boyfriend and I'm considering leaving him because of this. When I tell him about it, he makes excuses like: "I think it's a combination of being a little chubby and having those little T-rex arms makes it hard to wipe correctly." or "Well, I've been dealing with it for years." Why doesn't he see that 13 is too old to be doing this and making excuses isn't doing him a justice? Time and time again, I would place my hand into the laundry hamper and get soiled, the smell is terrible. It's an overpowering heavy, rotten, and sour. My daughter uses the same toilet and told me last night that it's often filthy and that she loves my boyfriend but doesn't want to live here anymore! She brushes her teeth in the morning but waits to walk to school to use the toilet! I just found this out last night and I'm devastated! How long has this been impacting her too? My boyfriend continued to tell me each time that he's talked to his boy about it, again, and again, and again, and again, each time I'd leave the underwear for him to see and tell him to please talk to his boy yet again .... Yesterday, this issue came to a head.

My daughter had a play date come to the house (along with my daughter's friend, I asked the mother to bring the 13 year old sister so my boyfriend's son would have girl interaction, he's not very social, in middle school, no friends, but he's handsome and funny and just needs an icebreaker ... they really hit it off and he'll have a friend at school tomorrow, hopefully) this is the first time we've had company since we've lived together and the friend's mother asked to use the restroom. I had the children clean it before company came but I forgot to check afterwards! I went into the restroom shortly after her, looked over, and noticed the feces caked on the seat! I was so embarrassed that I wanted to cry, I knew she saw it. She must have. What she must have thought about the way we live. I went to his bedroom and handed him a roll of paper towels and a bottle of Windex and quietly reminded him to clean the toilet. The girl was in the living room with her brother and my daughter and he immediately cleaned it right up ..... I checked. A bit after company left, I ordered pizza for the kids, pizza came and my daughter was at the table eating, I was in the living room with my boyfriend watching television and was soon overwhelmed with the stench of his son in the bathroom. He was in there for about 20 minutes and the smell in entire house was so terrible that I was gagging. I went to the kitchen and lit some candles, walked to the dining area and my daughter is sitting at the table unable to eat. She had a sad look on her face and asked to be excused because she felt sick. I let her go and placed the candles around the house. A few hours later, I started laundry and just about doubled over because of the stench of the caked underwear draped over the side of the laundry hamper. At least this time I didn't put my hand in it right? I didn't consider that rectification, I was disgusted and insulted. I showed the underwear to my boyfriend and he talked to his son. I asked him what he was going to do about it after he returned from talking to him because all I heard was giggling through the door as I was tucking my daughter in for the night. It did not sound serious. He said that his son says that he's embarrassed about it and doesn't know why he does it. I told my boyfriend that I've exhausted myself buying him the Abercrombie clothes for him, the nice underwear, the cool skater shoes, the popular haircuts, all so that he fits in at school but to no avail if he smells like poop all of the time! He smells like poop, and I told my boyfriend this last night and he looked at me like he didn't believe me. He thinks I'm being dramatic about this. I think he should start taking away video games and punish him and if he does it again, spank him!  But he replies, "That's the kind of thing that messes kids up! That could cause serious psychological problems!" I wonder if he's right, he probably is. Wait ...... is he right? Does he already have insight into a possible disorder and to embarrassed to disclose what he already knows to me?  Honestly, I want to beat his son's ass for the disrespect alone.  Why can't he just wash it out and keep his little secret?  I bought him the wet wipes for the bathroom, took him to the store and him pick them up so that he'd be aware that they existed and see if there was a reaction on his face. "Hey buddy, grab some of those for me, would you?" He handed them to me. "Okay, we're going to put these in your bathroom (holding up one container), and these in ours (holding up another)." I put them on top of the toilet and he uses them because I've been replacing them but evidently, they're not working the way I wanted them to. I buy the whole wheat fiber-full noodles, pack apples in the kids' lunches, cook them breakfasts, I know he's eating well, he's a little overweight but not so much to actually call it overweight, more of that chubby before high school overweight.  This issue has come to the point that his smell makes me feel physically ill and if I mention the issue to my boyfriend, it's viewed as a confrontation instead of a discussion. I don't mean to be negative but it happens so frequently and I can't ignore it! I think you get it. I'm probably rambling at this point. Anyway, it's 2:45 in the morning and I'm Googling and reading and this 'Encopresis' sounds like it may be the culprit. I don't even know how to pronounce it but the information reads familiar to what I know. I haven't shown my boyfriend the information I've found because I'm afraid that another mention of this poop problem may be the straw that breaks the camel's back. I'm tired of trying to help and meeting resistance. Is this a condition that goes away on its own? What should I do? Is this common?

Answer: 

Shannon—I do not see that you have anything to lose by confronting your boyfriend, but do so with the information provided below in this Q & A column and at the www.soilingsolutions.com website.  The 13 y/o could benefit from the same information.  Your story is so dramatic and an object lesson that this problem cannot be ignored over time and should have been dealt with by the time this child was 6 y/o.  The dad and the boy have become desensitized to the smells and mess.  You as an outsider coming into this situation and mostly doing the laundry could not ignore it.  The love and concern that you and your daughter display has been remarkable, but is being corroded away by repeated exposure and a sense of futility over changing the guys downplaying of this problem.  It may be that they have also felt futility over the years.  I hate to see wasted lives coming from this.  Strong resolve and action is necessary.  Insisting that both guys read the Q & A below and order the Clean Kid Manual (CKM) is well in order.  My program is aggressive because of the use of suppositories and enemas.  It is generally written for younger children.  It will have to be adapted for an older child, but the child himself, because of his age, will have to do a lot of self-administration with insistence and supervision by the father.  A flat plate abdominal X-ray will likely confirm a packed and enlarged colon from so many years of holding.  He most likely will require a “clean out” under the orders of a physician, from both the top-down and bottom-up over the course of 3-5 days before going to the SS protocol after a day or two of rest.  Often the parents on the SS Parent’s forum will share their clean out information.  Access to this forum can only come with the purchase of the CKM.  Diet changes, stool softeners, lectures, pleadings all are fruitless and the father and son must go to a more aggressive format.  I have already sent you a copy of my recent medical journal article and editorials about SS and hope that it was helpful to know that there is hope.  I have seen older children hear excerpts from portions of the CKM and become hopeful and take action, but they always require the strength of the adults to follow through.  Please come back to me back channel and let me know how things turn out.  DrC.

Maintenance therapy forever?

Question: 

I am from the Moscow, Idaho area.  My son is 8 yrs old.  He has had encropresis since he was about 4 yrs.  I am at my wits end!!  I have taken him to the doctor uncountable times and also to many different doctors.  The non-dairy diet helped for a little while.  We have had spells of time where things were better, but now it seems worse than ever.  I try to make sure he has 4 servings of fruits a day, juice, whole grains, low dairy, ect. ect.  I do not have complete control of what he eats while at school.  He takes miralax once a day, and once a week we have been giving him ex-lax (to clean him out).  This has not been working.  We have told him it is not his fault, but we expect him to keep himself clean and he still doesn't do this on his own.  It is very frustrating and we need some advice that is different than what we have been receiving.  Please Help!!

Answer: 

Hi Toni from out West.  There is nothing unusual about what you are doing in compliance with what is the standard medical advice for encopresis.  This is pretty much what physicians describe as “maintenance therapy” in hope of his eventually gaining control on his own over time.  The Miralax is used as a stool softener with the idea that it will prevent the stool from becoming dried out and “stuck”.  The Exlax is an irritant vegetable laxative which stimulates contractions in the colon intended to move the foodstuff along.  It makes some kind of simple Mr. Plumber sense and it does work for 40-60 percent of children.  The doctors may persist in this approach for way too long as they have in your case.  They have failed to address the real issue which is the voiding reflex at the end of the colon which has become dominated by the holding reflex.  We all hold, but do it just until we get to the bathroom, sit, and go.  Sounds simple, but your child just can’t initiate the voiding response at will and so he has repeated accidents when the poo just sneaks by.  In fact,  there is a book entitled “Sneaky Poo.” Playing around with diet is extremely common, but it all is buying time and hoping for magic in the majority of cases.  The waxing and waning of accidents is fairly common because he has not established a reliable voiding reflex habit.  If you keep reading on in my responses to parents below you will learn how my Soiling Solution protocol works to address this issue.  Basically it retrains awareness and associates the voiding reflex with sitting on the toilet stool.  If is definitive and effective, but resisted because it uses suppositories and enemas as training "primers" in a carefully structured way designed to have the child's own natural urges and voiding reflex to take over.  For now I will enclose a copy of my medical journal article and editorials concerning it in a separate email to you.  Readers who want this may simply write in with a request for the article and I will send it to them as an attachment.

A recent onset of bedwetting and encopresis in a 9 year old boy.

Question: 

I am from the Boston, MA area.  My son is 9 years old.  He has been having night time urine incontinence for about 1 year.  He has been having bowel incontinence while sleeping and during the day for about 6 months.  He does not usually have urine accidents during the day - only when he has a bowel accident. He was sent to a pedneuro today, who did not much of anything, just a physical examination (which his pcp already did). They did give him an x-ray but wont know the results until tomorrow. His pcp was worried about some type of seizures.  I wonder why they did not give him an eeg.  So, he now has had an mri, gastro, and urology appointment. One morning my son had diarrhea in his goodnight and went immediately to the shower.  When I went in his room there was a HUGE bowel movement on the floor.  So LARGE i have never seen something so big before, it had to have hurt.  He did not even know it was there and so obviously said that it did not hurt.  2 days ago i witnessed him go into the bathroom and knew something was wrong when he was running the water for a long time.  He told me that he had a urine accident only.  I checked his underwear and it did have diarrhea in it (he was too embarrassed to tell me).  He said that the urine urge came on too quick and that he did not even know about the bowel movement, it was a surprise. I don't fully understand what it going on and I also think that he is hiding more episodes from me than what I know about. The neuro was very rude and told me that she thinks "he just has a bad habit".

Answer: 

K—Bladder and bowel incontinence tend  to occur together because the bladder and colon are close together in the body, the fullness or pressure cues going to the brain get confused, and the voiding response mechanisms are neurologically connected.  Your son is holding poo as indicated by the huge BM.  Many kids hold both pee and poo at school because of the public nature of the lavatories.  You are now dealing with a habit which is perpetuating the hold and accident cycle for both pee and poo. The appearance of this at an older age is unusual and may have led your PCP to speculate about seizures and hence his referral to a neurologist.  Your child may have been predisposed to encopresis if he has had a history of toilet clogging or several days between BMs?  The X-ray may disclose a considerable back up of stool and an enlarged colon.  Your son may be hiding his accidents.  Finding a stash of dried out soiled underpants is not unusual.  There is so much social inhibition and isolation about this area of the body that this hiding and out and out denial are not unusual.  The neurologist’s attitude reflects our social attitudes and overcame her objective clinical training.  People do not understand this problem in general and engage in all kinds of assumptions which can include assuming willfulness and bad parenting.  He has lost control over the coordination of his holding and voiding reflexes.  When in doubt he clamps up, but that becomes overconditioned and out of his control.  In sleep, the voiding reflex may dominate as the External Anal Sphincter relaxes and he has a BM.  This is much more common with the urethral sphincter for bedwetters.  The coordination of his holding and voiding reflexes with awareness of his voiding urges have to be retrained which is addressed by my Soiling Solutions protocol which you will understand better by reading on in this column.  Also, I will attach a recent copy of my medical journal article on Soiling Solutions along with a couple of editorials concerning it.  DrC.

A 6 y/o girl who "holds" and has avoided encopresis, but needs to learn to poo naturally.

Question: 

Hello,
We are from the Chicago area.  Having read through your forum letters, I can tell that we are on a path with our 6 year old daughter which we would like to curtail as soon as possible. She started public school this year, and I believe, with that, having been in a Montessori school previous, the Scheduled bathroom trips and less movement have started her on a cycle of constipation. She has not soiled herself, but we have had a series of weeks where she will stop going, afraid of the BM hurting, embarrassed to go at school etc. and then we end up a week or so later needing to give her a glycerin suppository. She will have regular BM's for more than a week, and then the cycle starts again. She drinks water, eats whole grains, fruits and veggies, although definitely fewer then we would like as she has also started to become more picky with her diet. Our question is, would the protocol you suggest for encopresis be the same for her pattern. The Doc went the softener route. We have a probiotic from our chiropractor, and have even tried cod liver oil pills. It is so sad to see her emotions get so extreme when she goes so many days without a BM. I'm sure so many children entering public schools must fall victim to this cycle. We would appreciate your insight. As a side note, I work as a Doula and I appreciate the work you have done to guide Father's back into the delivery room. With our daughter's situation, I often feel like her "poola". Thanks,

Answer: 

Jennifer—Your experience as a Doula is so very relevant to this issue of stool hoarding!  There are so many parallels physiologically and psychologically to the birthing process which can be helpful, but hard to talk about.  You appear to have avoided encopresis which is simply defined behaviorally as having BMs in inappropriate places at age 4 years and later.  You are doing so many things right with diet, drinking, and the occasional use of a glycerin “primer” to aid her.  You are right about the risk for encopresis being associated with going to public school, it is the second most frequent correlate for its onset.  Your observation on the effect of holding on her emotions and disposition is often missed by parents because they assume it is due to the encopresis itself.  No, it is the discomfort and effort of holding with a fear of an accident is very taxing and often makes them cross.  The Soiling Solutions protocol would fit your child’s situation very well.  She is trapped in a constant cycle of holding and toileting avoidance even as she has escaped the encopresis itself because of your dedication.  You have been doing good prevention, but it is all premised on your efforts which she should take over now and make it over into a natural function under her control.  You have been patient enough!  I will attach a copy of my medical journal article and editorials concerning it in a separate email to you to help you in your making a decision.

No Barrier to Success for a 7 y/o with ADHD and Hypothyroidism.

Question: 

I have a 7yr old son diagnosed with hypothyriodism and adhd and add soils pants daily  on eltroxin 0.5 mg how do we deal with it.

Answer: 

Jimmy—Your country extension indicates that you are from South Africa.  Neither of your issues should prevent your being successful with the Soiling Solutions Protocol to eliminate soiling early on with the carefully timed use of short sits escalating to suppositories and enemas as they may be required.  This should lead to your son to taking over his own inherent voiding reflex even though implementation and response may be slower because of his ADHD.  Rather than going into any extensive detail here, please read on and you will gain a better idea about the SS protocol and the theory behind its success.  Also, I will attach in a separate email my recent medical journal article on the history and rationale for the SS Protocol. 

A squat and poo 1st grader with leakage from overholding.

Question: 

I am in Eastern Missouri with a 1st grade student at school who soils his pants on average once a day. I have read about encopresis and it sounds similiar to the student I have. However, there are times when the student squats and poops. We are very puzzled to why he soils his pants so often. We don't think it is task avoidance because he will sit in it until someone ask him. There are also times when he lies and says he did not soil his pants because does not want to miss the activity the class is doing.  HELP!

Answer: 

Terri—You will have noticed young children in homes with diapers or pull ups stop, squat, and poop.  This is very natural; especially where children are kept in pull ups for too long or they have a temperament that makes training very difficult. Home circumstances may also have prevented effective and timelier training.  Basically, this has become so engrained via the simple classical conditioning paradigm that ordinary methods of training can no longer apply.  By default this child became “overtrained” to go in his clothing.  It is a habit like overeating, biting nails, etc. which can be surprisingly resistant to change. The wearing of clothes coupled with powerful voiding urges which he has been holding off makes this his ultimate default action followed by the powerful reinforcement of dramatic sensations of relief.  We do not call it “relieving ourselves” for nothing when we have to “go”! 

The only effective default procedure available today is the Soiling Solutions protocol which I developed during a Sabbatical year in Australia and then used it in my private practice.  I have reported on it in a medical textbook and a recent medical journal article, but it remains very controversial because it employs suppositories and enemas as “primers” to induce powerful urges and then repeated successful voiding on a toilet stool in a carefully timed and programmed way set forth in the detailed Clean Kid Manual-IV (CKM-IV).  Eventually, the child’s own resources are conditioned to take over and he is successfully going properly on his own! 

The CKM-IV is available only from the SS website at www.soilingsolutions.com or a health professional who has ordered multiple copies at a significant discount.  This helps to assure proper usage and supervision. The application of the program is really by necessity limited to the privacy of the home by caring parents.  Anything you try in your school setting will be ineffective.  The choice has to be made by the parents.  They will have to follow the SS protocol or allow possible physical consequences (e.g., a megacolon, recurrent infections, irritation, rashes), social isolation, or, pardon my bluntness, have the child soil for years and years with all the attendant guilt, anger, upset, and ego destroying features of encopresis!  The parents will have the advantage of being enrolled in a SS Parents’ forum with other parents who have all read the manual and who have used it with their own children.  Your parents will need parents with “street cred” who have been there with this problem!  My protocol is not “child abuse”, not employing it and blithe assurances that he will “grow out of it” is unacceptable.  I will enclose a copy of my medical journal article, editorials regarding it, and a picture of my toilet trained cat in a separate email to you.  Readers can also see my cat on the stool at www.soilingsolutions.com/megacolon.htm

 

Is my 10 year-old daughter with encopresis just being lazy?

Question: 

I’m from Salem, VA.  Why does my 10 year old daughter hold her bowel movements while she is playing, or watching TV, etc? The soiling varies from week to week and she has been doing this since she was 3 years old.  She does this at school too, where she will not ask the teacher to go to the bathroom.  Does it have to do with potty training and or being lazy?  My mom did not take care of the problem so I had to.

Answer: 

M.—Actually, we likely all hold while watching TV!  You may have heard that the city water pressure drops during commercials throughout the Super Bowl game!  Often people doing errands hold off going to the bathroom until they get back to the comfort of their own homes.  Children often do this during the school day.  Holding is a prepotent, first automatic response to pee or poo toileting urges!  The trouble with children is that they do this so often just as a matter of course that their stools may dry out, their colon expands, and a painful passage of poo may deliver the message to them that, that is enough of that!  Power struggles may result and everyone learns to live with a bad smell and ineffectual efforts to stem the tide of poo.  This prepotent habit becomes so overlearned that it dominates and the follow up voiding reflex habit of going poo on the toilet never adequately develops.  The medical profession instructs parents to give oral stool softeners and laxatives which may work if done early enough, but often this is too late because of parenting delays, embarrassment, and scheduling difficulties with the appropriate specialist, the Pediatric Gastroenterologist (PedGI).  Too many physicians, even including the PedGIs, fail to understand the reflex arc mechanism for installing the voiding reflex to follow the holding response. 

 

My Soiling Solutions (SS) Protocol is the only home-based treatment alternative that can provide the understanding and instructions provided in the Clean Kid Manual (CKM) to help your child recognize his urges and quickly and efficiently get to the toilet stool and void appropriately.  The CKM is only available through www.soilingsolutions.com or your physician who may have ordered multiple copies of the manual at steep discounts from my store.  Professional orders have been rare since the doc’s simply stick with their old “top down” treatment, sometimes with behavioral psychology emphases for rewards.  They also may offer their profound assurances that he/she will “grow out of it”!  Of course they charge for this profound assurance.  You also pay for laundry, labor, and wasted emotions.  Some physicians are “open” to the SS method and others will give you the “evil eye” or at least frown if you mention it to them.  You can do the SS Protocol with the help of over 300 parents on the exclusive SS Parents Forum which you gain access to with the purchase of the CKM.  I do prefer that you at least let your physician that you are proceeding with SS, but can understand if you do not.  You may have to be very confident and strong in doing this.  I do provide a letter in the manual or on my website to assist you. 

 

Back in the early 70’s physicians and hospitals had to be confronted to allow fathers in labor and delivery rooms.  They could not fight off the cultural changes pushing this in those days.  I know, I was the founding President for Educated Childbirth, Inc. in Grand Rapids, MI back in those days.  I hope we can get enough momentum to get them to default to the rational Soiling Solutions protocol much more quickly than is done today. 

A British mum at the end of her tether with her 5.5 year old son's pooh soiling.

Question: 

I am from London, My son is 5 1/2 years old and for the past three years has consistently soiled himself.  We have been to our local child developement centre and have gone down the road of behavioral charts, rewards etc.. with them but none of this has worked.  We think the problem started when he was made to sit on the toilet by his grandmother at the age of about 2 1/2 to do a pooh and it hurt and frightened him. Since then, he has been chronically constipated which led to him becoming impacted. He has been xrayed on three consecutive days to ensure that his system was working ok ,which it was, but the problem has never gone away. We try and get him to drink water but he flatly refuses and he has plenty of weak squash and apple juice as we need to keep him properly hydrated.  Up until the last five weeks he has been prescribed Movicol, Senna, Lactulose, supposateries and Sodium picosulphate in varying amounts , at one point he ended up in A&E with chronic stomach pains!  The confusing thing is that he is no longer constipated or afraid of going to the toilet and when told to do so will do a normal pooh but he has to be told, not asked and, even though I decided to wean him off the laxatives over a month ago, his bowel habits haven't changed at all. my son is still soiling himself constantly during the day, he has spare clothes at school but unfortunately the teacher does not have the time nor inclination to continually check him, he therefore comes home every night with dirty underwear and has to be changed at least twice more before bed. This happens every day without fail. The only time he doesn't soil himself is when he is asleep. I am now worried that he may need surgical help as his colon has become so 'loose' that he can no longer go to the toilet normally. I realise that we still have work to do phsycologically but I am at the end of my tether and nobody has ever mentioned Encopresis to me at all. I am now in the process of getting a hospital appt. but would appreciate any help and advice you can give me. Does this sound like Encopresis?
Help!!!
Lisa (mum)

Answer: 

Lisa—I love the Briticisms of mum and pooh!  Yes, this is indeed encopresis which is really a behavioral definition of BMs in inappropriate places, e.g., clothing, bed, etc.  Since fecal incontinence is so malodorous and a biohazard for the child and others it is not surprising that you are at the end of your tether!  You noted a concern for his physical health related to his colon which becomes enlarged with the reflexive overholding reflex.  This is a real issue and his colon may take a long time to return to normal, if it ever does, but his age suggests that you may be catching this problem early enough.  Lest I create panic for other parents, the colon may continue to be functional even if caught much later in the teen years, but why continue to live with it and take a risk?  Also, why should you expose yourself and your child to more visits to an Accident and Emergency (A & E) Center? Adequate treatment should no longer be delayed even for your young child and frankly it requires a more aggressive approach which today only exists as a home-based treatment based on my Soiling Solutions (SS) Protocol which is explained and detailed in the Clean Kid Manual (CKM).  You will have more of a sense of that protocol by reading more of my answers below by others, including your countrymen, and by going to the www.soilingsolutions.com website.  The CKM and the exclusive SS email forum participation which comes with its purchase is only available from the SS website (or loaned by your health service if they can be persuaded to purchase it at steeply discounted prices—see the Professional option at the SS store).  I will send you an attachment of my recent medical journal article on SS in a separate email. 

 

My protocol is not widely accepted as a default treatment to the approaches which you have already attempted, ad nauseum.  In fact, the physicians are “stuck” and just repeat instructions for their top-down oral approach, pat you on the head paternalistically or maternally, and assure you that he will “grow out of it”.  That is it, except maybe for biofeedback which requires specialized equipment and personnel outside of the home.  Even though your child appears to be compliant with demands to sit and pooh, that clearly is inadequate and he needs to recognize and respond with a voiding habit which can become more reliable, complete, and connected to sitting on the toilet in an efficient manner.  My protocol only requires 2-3 minute sitting trials.  This certainly is more likely to become automatic than asking a child to wash their hands or brush their teeth.  However, many children may have to be reminded and closely observed for months after success with the SS protocol to firmly engrain the voiding reflex. 

Natural Food vs. Medical Prescriptions in Encopresis.

Question: 

I've heard a lot of on-line chatter about Fruit-EZE as an alternative to laxatives and stool softeners.  Is it effective?  it comes in a jelly form that we can put on toast.  We are currently giving my son about 1 tsp. of miralx a day and i want to get him off the medication if there is a safe and as effective alternative.

Answer: 

Marcy--Your question reveals a tension between the use of oral medications versus natural food products in affecting “poo”.  The advantage of medications is that they are more accurately measured, manufactured, and tested by common scientific standards.  So when you ask about a natural food product the same standards are not applied and you are dealing with more anecdotal and unique formulations that are hard to generalize from for advice.  Here are some points to consider.

1). I am at odds with the current medical over-use of oral stool softeners which liquefies stools so as to eliminate normal voiding signals which would come from normal well-formed stools knocking at the anal exit.  I share your concerns, but you have to see normal daily stools in order to evaluate any relationship between diet intake and his BMs.

2). Unfortunately, eliminating stool softeners and substituting fiber does not mean dealing with the engrained holding reflex of these children which also distorts his stools.  You need a daily BM, which is normal, to see normal results.  Then and only then can any alterations in diet be judged over the course of a week or two. 

3).  Liquid intake is extremely important which is often overlooked by parents in stool production.  Any increase in fiber should be associated with added and adequate liquid intake. Sufficient liquid intake alone is important.

4).  Too much fiber could actually be a problem with too much stool production or producing hard and painful stools.  This is too often overlooked in the email forums.

5).  The Soiling Solutions protocol assures daily stool production which means early cessation of soiling and a daily look at normal stool production.  This assures that you can better evaluate the effects of any diet changes which would include tapering off of a stool softener and which can be very unique to the individual child.  I just checked and see that you purchased the Clean Kid Manual-IV and are on the SS Forum, so at least you have a good start.

6). I personally think that the emphasis on diet and possible food allergies are way overdone by parents of children with encopresis.  Why pick fights with the child and the rest of the family over food if the SS protocol alone solves the problem?  The SS approach will work in the vast majority of cases because you are really training in the appropriate voiding reflex to take over from an overlearned holding reflex regardless of diet!  Look at the general population with all kinds of diets and no issues with soiling. I think diet should be based on general health considerations rather than this specific condition of encopresis distorting food choices.

I hope that I have lent some perspective to your question, even though I could not give you a formal simple answer!

 

Medieval torture and encopresis? For whom?

Question: 

Hi,
My 10 year old daughter has a real problem. For 7 years (since she was 3) she has suffered recurrent urinary tract infections. We have had all he physiological investigations (bladder capacity, kidney function etc) with no indication of abnormality. She has been on antibiotics of one sort or another for all of this time, either on a prophylactic basis or to fight a specific infection.

To complicate matters, she is also soiling daily. Her underwear is either coated with a smear of poo or has actual lumps in it. This, of course, smells.

We have been back and forth to doctors and paediatricians for years. In the latest part of the saga they have suggested she take a stool softener (Movicol) and keep a poo diary, which we have done (for 8 months). She appears not to be constipated as the doctors have manipulated her tummy and found no obvious lumps or blockages. In addition, the stool softener seems to give her diarrhoea which then leads to infection in her urethra and another course of antibiotics.

I am utterly frustrated with the medical profession and their apparent inability to treat my child. Her confidence is battered and there are times when I cannot help but show her my frustration. I know this is counterproductive but sometimes I just can't help it.

She has started to hide her soiled underwear.

At our last visit to the paediatrician, I insisted they try something else but all I received in response was a blank stare and was told to carry on with the stool softener.

I mentioned to them the possibility of enemas etc (without naming Soiling Solutions) and the doctor looked at me in disgust - as if I had suggested a medieval punishment!

Can you please give me some pointers on what to do next?

Many many thanks, Michele

Answer: 

Michele--Your doctor’s reaction, unfortunately, is fairly typical.  They are themselves subject to the same cultural forces as we all are about this very private area of the body and the elimination of highly malodorous bodily wastes, especially poo, which is, quite literally, a biohazard for its disease spreading potential. You already know this from your daughter’s repeated bladder infections. Fecal Incontinence is the number two reason why the elderly are placed into nursing homes; many adults suffering from Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) are afraid to leave their homes; and even loving moms like you find it hard to maintain an unemotional response to poo accidents.  Verbal and nonverbal signs just have a way of breaking out; smell is a very primitive disgust “trigger”.   Your child hiding her soiled underwear is just another sign that she is picking up on the same cultural reactions.  This problem, encopresis, can result in physical and mental emotional problems that must be addressed.  In effect you all are caught in a web of medieval punishment, but we should expect or demand more of our physicians when they have so much ability to help you and other children by being more open to the Soiling Solutions protocol.  So be kinder to yourself and become a strong advocate or mother bear for your child.

 I developed the Soiling Solutions(SS) protocol while I was an invited visiting professor in Perth, Australia and began clinical applications when I returned to the USA.  I produced a manual in 1998 for sale over the internet at www.soilingsolutions.com which you have apparently discovered.  The Clean Kid Manual (CKM) has undergone three revisions largely based on feedback from parents on the exclusive Soiling Solutions Forum which comes with a manual purchase.  I cannot lend understanding and detailed procedures for an adequate home-based treatment except through that manual which you or your health service could purchase from my website (the store offers discounts for medical professionals). I suggest you read that manual and proceed with treatment.  If your doctor rejects assistance or agreement with following the protocol, tell him that you are placing him on the back burner and that you will report the results to him later.  I would be happy to talk with him via Skype at “SoilingSolutions” or a phone call.  Share this www.encopresis.org  Q & A column with him and he can read many recent parent reports by clicking on the “User Comments” link on the SS website. I will attach here my medical journal article on the history and explanation of Soiling Solutions, editorials regarding it, and a picture of my toilet stool trained cat which kids love.  Maybe, making copies for him when you inform him of your intent may help him toward some understanding, if not approval.  Look, they have failed you, period!  You have a right to be an angry mother bear. You could show him a copy of my manual along with your diary records of results later on.  My program will end the soiling within 1-2 weeks and you will be on a forum with other parents using the manual (some 300+ parents)!   Fortunately, even with older children, the mental and emotional consequences quickly fall away with success.  Let all of us know your doctor’s reactions if you follow through using the Comments option below this response!  DrC.  
 

Hope for a 7-year old with a father in prison?

Question: 

My nephew is 7. Unfortunately, his father is in prison. I am one of few male role models he has. Last year his encopresis interferred with his education, that he was referred for "counseling" at his school. This year, he seemed better until his grandmother and aunt took him to see his father in prison. Now he's soiling himself again. What can I do?

Answer: 

W.—There is so little information here, but here are some observations.  In custodial disputes and prison circumstances where the concerned parent is in disagreement on treatment it is virtually impossible to be successful with an intervention.  Clearly, even a visit can be highly disruptive and subsequently preoccupy a child that would interfere with treatment.  If the father actually approves a treatment protocol and transfers his credibility and support to you that would be helpful. Is he your brother?  If he is a saboteur, I would be very pessimistic about success.  If the treatment is to be truly successful, it really has to be done in the home by actual hands on intervention, not through “counseling” at school.  My program is your best chance, but it may just be too intense for Grandma and yourself who would have to be involved virtually every day for the Soiling Solutions daily treatment hour.  Can you both assure that degree of commitment?  It would be a real opportunity for “bonding” with the child because you will go through trials and tribulations together toward a common and successful goal of eliminating soiling.  This is a form of tough love and real love.  Parents with diabetic children and insulin shot requirements can face this every day for a lifetime!  A half way and compromising approach simply won’t work and will worsen the complications for the child. 

More "Maintenance Therapy" Forever at a Top Medical Center for Encopresis.

Question: 

My 5 yo son has been battling encopresis for 2 years.  Per UNC constipation clinic, he is on a 2 caps of Miralax daily "maintenance" and though we had some success with no soiling following a recent "cleanout", he is now basically oozing poop all day long and having virtually no substantial bms.  I change him 10-15 times per day and have consequently resorted back to pullups, so now he is having pee accidents all day too.  He even leaks poop at night.  Quite often his leakage has a gritty texture or the tiniest little poop balls that cling to his skin and scotum and are virtually impossible to clean.  He is often raw with skin rash and screams even when "hosed off" with warm water in the tub.  I keep him covered in butt paste all day long.  Is this texture odd or indicative of any particular complication, ie food allergy, etc.?

Also, he wakes frequently with excruciating leg pain.  Might this in some way be connected?  I am wondering if there is a common nerve or some other with the gi issues.  Motrin relieves the leg pain.

He's a cheerful, cooperative guy who does not seem particularly troubled by his issues.  He never complains of stomach cramps, is willing to sit regularly on the toilet, but says that he just can't feel what he calls, "the automatic kind" of poop.

Obviously, I am considering SS as I am at the end of my rope and fearful of damage to his little body.  I am planning to re-visit UNC GI and hope to discuss the idea with them.  Thoughts?

 

Answer: 

B.—Say hi to the UNC folks for me!  The UNC Center for Functional GI and Motility Disorders is a highly reputable institution and I am assuming that the Constipation Clinic is contained in that center.  I coauthored a chapter in a medical text with one of their researchers and I do know the Co-director who recently received a $3.3 million dollar NIH research grant for Irritable Bowel Syndrome.  Now for the bad news.  Although the principals there know me and helped me to get a publication in “Digestive Health Matters”, they do not utilize my Soiling Solutions protocol to my knowledge.  So I will be very interested in their reactions to your request.  I have over 3000 parent “informants” out there who let me know what is going on in their community.  The SS protocol is typically dismissed.  There are other parents in your particular area who have finally adopted SS on their own.  When parents report back with highly successful results they typically report encountering indifference and dismissal as if the SS approach working was just a fluke.  However, I have a lot of “missionaries” out there and hope that eventually we will have more of an impact.

 

Although my approach is regarded as “aggressive,” I view it as heading off “…damage to his little body.”  Research shows that the colon does not necessarily return to “normal” and remains stretched out even in successfully treated children at a 4 years follow up.  The sooner you get “aggressive” the better off he will be!  Also, you wondered about the nature of his BMs, rawness, and rash with his current “maintenance therapy” in relationship to his diet.  Well, with the SS protocol parents get a much better and complete picture of the relationship between diet and stools because they get a clear look at his daily, complete BMs which occur only with my program.  Any variations in diet you will see the results of in the next day or two with his daily complete BMs.  The “back up” and over-holding reflex with poop and pee in his pull ups contribute to skin breakdown.  The bladder becomes involved with all of the additional pressure and confusion that goes with being backed up.  The SS protocol will clear this up fairly quickly within a week or two, though I think you would be well advised to check my website for “bidet inserts” which will clean that area with just water alone.  I am not popular now with diaper and paper manufacturers!  I have not heard of the leg pain associated with constipation, but it is possible that his muscles involved in the holding are responsible.  That is the external anal sphincter or EAS and the levator ani could be involved in some way, but I am speculating here.  Also, some children show a lot of strain in stiffening their lower body in resisting their BMs which would involve the leg muscles.  Do report back to me on your experience at the Continence Center, I will keep it confidential!

Improved, But Still Having Soiling Accidents for a 4-Year Old Girl.

Question: 

My four year old daughter has always has small soiling accidents since she was potty trained.  The accidents became worse when she started school and we moved to a new house at the age of three and a half.  Before we understood that withholding pooping was causing the soiling, she was having up to 8 accidents a day.  Now she only has 1 or 2, except when she has a different schedule, visiting a friend's house, for example, then there may be more, especially if she had not defecated prior to the play date.
     After seeing several pediatricians and a GI, she has been taking two tiny scoops of Miralax (PEG) daily.  1/8th of a teaspoon, just to keep her stools soft.  She has a healthy diet including plenty of fruits and vegetables, whole grains, starting her day with a bowl of oatmeal.. She has toilet sits 20 minutes after most meals, a calendar of smiles for daily poops and little dots for accidents.  We work hard not to make a big deal of accidents. She often helps with clean up.  Shes poops 6 days a week.
     None of her doctors have found her to be constipated.  However, one GI found in a rectal inspection that my daughter could not squeeze her finger with her anus, so she prescribed biofeedback therapy.  My daughter tries to learn to squeeze her anus properly and to push while relaxing her anus.
     I do not understand why my daughter continues to soil almost every day even though she has a substantial BM almost every day.  Usually the accidents occur before she poops, indicating a reluntance to poop and also a lack of feeling the sensation of needing to poop.  Sometimes, she has accidents hours after pooping.  This is strange because it would seem that she was already cleaned out.  Her GI says she is not pushing long enough.  By the way, without the afternoon dose of PEG, she does not poop the following day.
     Recently I started to wonder if she had some sort of obstruction in her colon that was preventing her to really get all the feces out when she poops.  I increased the dose of PEG two 1/2 teaspoon for one afternoon.  She had runny stools and accidents all day.  She seemed empty by evening because her stools were very small.  I lowered the dose to the small amount again.  Today she had two messy accidents and no stool in the toilet.
     Perhaps she had runny accidents from the higher dose of PEG two days earlier?
     But I still wonder why she continues to have an accident a day, even a tiny one?
     I would also like her to be taking something more natural, maybe Fruiteze, rather than PEG.  She has been taking PEG for 6 months and the improvement has been slow.

Answer: 

Darlene—Great job on providing background information.  You show some excellent insights, but let me see if I can add some new perspectives.  You have noted the effects of change on your daughter and she appears to be very sensitive in this regard.  My guess is that her gut is a “target” organ most affected by any form of change.  Stress (+ or -) slows the gut (Sympathetic Nervous System dominance), but sets her up for a “rebound” reaction of powerful activation of the bowel (Parasympathetic System dominance) in a kind of “let down” or release phenomenon.  This places her more at risk for accidents.  We know relaxation is very important for having a complete voiding reflex—cats are very easily stressed organisms and they are very subject to holding and megacolons.  Stool consistency is an important variable and loose stool, often a result of Miralax, results in frequent accidents because the sub-mucous membrane of the colon cannot discriminate adequately between liquid stool and gas which leads to “oops” moments.         

You noted the GI doc who recommended biofeedback because of her not activating the External Anal Sphincter (EAS) which consists of voluntary muscle fibers which engage the “holding reflex”.  That surprises me and I wonder if you misunderstood her/his report.  I suspect that he reported that she could not “push” the finger back out, which is the “voiding reflex” and which is what you want to be trained.  Most of these children are great “holders,” but poor “pusher outers!”  Also, this may be more a problem of dysnergia or poor coordination of these two important reflexes in the hold-release sequence which is necessary for adequate colo-rectal control.  Also, biofeedback is not usually regarded as effective until the child is 6 or 7 years for cognitive and practice/transfer of training reasons. In fact, this is one of the reasons as an early biofeedback pioneer that I developed the Soiling Solutions (SS) protocol which is a retraining procedure which can be done at home with a carefully stepped and timed sequence of short sits with voiding assured by the use of suppository and/or enema “primers” which enhance and condition urge signals and the proper voiding response in such a way that the child’s own colo-rectal response will take over from these artificial voiding prompts.  Unfortunately, for you and me, it does not appear that our culture and physicians are quite ready for my intervention despite my chapter in a medical text and a medical journal article on the SS protocol.  Too many people out of total ignorance assume that it is a punishment or threat approach to treatment and not a methodical rational retraining approach.

Today physicians are very reluctant to employ my protocol and prefer what is called “maintenance therapy” and the canard that “your child will grow out of it,” which is what you are doing and which I am fighting.  Finally, from what you report with her diet and use of Miralax I would not expect her to have an obstruction.  I think the factors I mentioned above could be a sufficient explanation for what is going on with your daughter.  Keep reading on down this column, parents should have a choice. 

Tips Not Enough for an Intense Computer Gaming 9 Year Old.

Question: 

Hello from the UK.  Having just read your very helpful web page I have no doubt that my nine year old son has encopresis.  It's been going on for about two to three months.  His poos look soft and his diet, fibre and water in-take are good.  We don't eat pre-prepared food or ready meals.  He's fit and slim.  He has periods of soiling and then nothing for a couple of weeks and then it comes back again.  I think it's caused by his unwillingness to leave the computer when he's in the middle of a game!  Although that is guess work as he says he doesn't know when it happens.  He's started to get secretive about it.  I've just looked for your manual on Amazon but couldn't see it.  I'd be really grateful for any tips on how we help him regain his control.  Thanks.  Helen

Answer: 

Helen—Yes, intense, busy children may be more at risk for encopresis.  They just won’t take the time to sit, relax, and go.  The relaxation actually is very important for the voiding reflex, intense emotional engagement tends to slow the GI tract and your 9 y/o son can succeed in holding and fighting off his urges which can lead to an enlarged colon.  So, he has a well trained, over learned holding reflex which is gaining on and replacing his voiding reflex.  Accidents will occur and they are just that, oops!  The secretiveness is bad news.  It is avoidance, denial, and it only buries the problem deeper and deeper.  He will be harder to treat and resistant to facing the truth.  I am afraid a few “tips” are not going to take care of this.  You could go to the open public forum (email addresses protected) at www.encopresis.org  for all kinds of tips.  Maybe you will luck out.  Unfortunately, my experience of these forums is that they only result in a lot of helter-skelter applications that really don’t solve the basic issues and they only delay using an effective, well organized treatment protocol.  You were wise to do your research and look for my manual, the Clean Kid Manual, which can only be purchased from www.soilingsolutions.com.  If you purchase it you will gain access to other parents on an exclusive email forum who have been very successful and are using the manual.  Some like to stay on and help the “newbies.”  The parents are all in it together, have the manual in common, and share tremendous insights and support. 

A New Stepmother with a 13 Year Old's Encopresis.

Question: 

I just recently married a man with a 13 year old boy. I'm having a problem with the child soiling his pants. His father is in denial that the boy don't know he is doing it. He say's that his son has a problem. I don't think he does. The child does this every day and he comes home form school and just sits in it all day. It's beginning to be a very big issue with me, having to come home from work and have my house smelling the way it does. I know the child knows he does it cause you can ask him and he will tell you yes. Plaese, give my husband some pointers on how to control this issue.

Answer: 

Charlotte—You have a problem that requires action by all of you to work toward a solution.  At 13 y/o he has the capacity for some insight and hopefully cooperation.  He has no real control over this problem and needs a healthy dose of HOPE and tough love.  Mere talking or lecturing will not change him.  I presume that organic causes by now have been ruled out and that the standard pediatric approaches have not worked to give him time “to grow out of it.”   You need a plan on how to approach him with his father and then carry through with his cooperation and your supervision.  I will send you my medical journal article on the Soiling Solutions protocol as an attachment in an email which you should read and let him read.  If you are at all encouraged by that article then order the Clean Kid Manual which details the treatment plan from www.soilingsolutions.com.  Frankly, it is your only hope because this problem is very likely to continue for some time and ruin your marriage.  Joining a parents’ forum comes with the purchase which will really reinforce you.  The protocol, if faithfully followed, will require his “buy in.”  It will stop the soiling fairly early on within one-two weeks which will be a real breakthrough for you, but continued supervision is going to be required.  He will not be flushing that toilet without your seeing and confirming his BMs first for up to a year, especially if there is backsliding, which often occurs.  My program is not easy and at his age he will have to self-apply suppositories and enemas in a carefully programmed and timed sequence that will guarantee daily BMs.  He may need dad’s help in the beginning to calm him and follow through.  Sorry, you three will all have to make a considerable commitment to this.  Your action and determination here could really increase your credibility and his appreciation for you, if you can get through all the static that is almost sure to result.  Be prepared to be an evil stepmother!  Maybe he has been waiting for some definitive action to end this problem.

Diet Differences, Observations, and Risks for 2 Year Old Twins Over Time.

Question: 

Dear Dr,
I have twins boy/girl 2yrs old.
i feed the many veggies. I steam them and puree them. If i give them just steam they will not eat them.
the also eat fish sticks, chicken nuggets, turkey, steak, chicken, hot dogs, ground beef and ground turkey.
they will eat salmon and halibut.
they eat alot of fruit and goat yogart and goat milk.
my son likes rice milk and my daughter likes soy milk.
the really do not eat any cow dairy.'
but once in awhile i give them cottage cheese, they will only eat it with fruit.
they get veggies and fruit 1-2 times a day.
i buy most of my food at the health food store.
they do not get fruit juice, the only sugar they get is from fruit.
they have whole wheat bread, oatmeal, pasta - sometimes rice pasta.
i think their diet is very heatlhy.
but their bms are kinda mushy, they are not hard or formed.
once they had mac and cheese and they did not have a bm for 2 days and they were little round hard balls.
my son will have 1-2 bm a day sometimes 3. my daughter will have 1 a day and it will be big. sometimes 2.
am i doing something wrong?? should their bm be hard and small.
they are very healthy and last winter if they had colds they were better within days.
all my other friends who feed their children crap food seem to be sick a lot and have hard bms.
please give me some advice.'
my husband feels i am giveing them to many veggies and fruit.
thank you.
sincerely,
ilyse

Answer: 

Ilyse—The diet looks fine with lots of fiber and a reasonable diet of protein sources.  Small and hard BMs are not good and over time you will relate more to what goes in and what comes out.  Constipating or binding foods could result in a hard uncomfortable passage of stools which can lead to some children “over holding” and resisting sitting on the stool for their BMs.  A vicious escalating cycle of pain-hold-more pain-more holding, is possible and become hard to overcome by predominate pediatric treatments today which merely emphasize “maintenance therapy” with the use of oral laxatives or stool softeners. Mushy BMs are OK if they do not get too much on the side of being “liquidy” or pudding-like in nature which could compromise the ability to detect the difference from passing stool or gas. That could result in soiling with harsh and confused reactions by the parents and actually promote stronger and more frequent holding attempts.  Encopresis with or without constipation may result.  Your boy will very likely copy your husband in his food eating habits just by observation, though your influence will still contribute to his eating habits.  You are doing a good job, just keep observing and gathering information.

Please Comment on the Following Recently Published Study on Encopresis (See Question) and My Answer.

Question: 

Oct 2009  CLINICAL GASTROENTEROLOGY AND HEPATOLOGY (v7,10), Pp. 1069-1074. 

A Randomized Controlled Trial of Enemas in Combination With Oral Laxative Therapy for Children With Chronic Constipation

Bongers,M.E.J., van den Berg,M.M., Reitsma,J.B., Voskuijl,W.P., & Benninga,M.A.*
Univ Amsterdam, Acad Med Ctr, Emma Childrens Hosp, Dept Pediat Gastroenterol & Nutr, Room G8-261,Meibergdreef 9, NL-1105 AZ Amsterdam, Netherlands

Search Terms—Encopresis, Incontinence, Fecal, Constipation, Enema

BACKGROUND & AIMS: After 5 years of intensive oral laxative use, up to 30% of constipated children still have an unsuccessful outcome. Children refractory to oral laxatives might benefit from regular rectal evacuation by enemas. This randomized controlled trial compared the effects of additional treatment with rectal enemas (intervention) with conventional treatment alone (oral laxatives, control) in severely constipated children. METHODS: In a tertiary hospital in the Netherlands, 100 children, aged 8-18 years, with functional constipation for at least 2 years were randomly assigned to intervention or control groups. The control group received education, behavioral strategies, and oral laxatives. The intervention group was also given 3 rectal enemas/week, reduced by I enema/week every 3 months. Outcome measures were defecation and fecal incontinence frequency and overall success at 12, 26, 39, and 52 weeks. Overall success was defined as 3 or more defecations/week and less than 1 fecal incontinence episode/week, irrespective of laxative use.

RESULTS: Defecation frequency normalized in both groups but was significantly higher in the intervention group compared with controls at 26 and 52 weeks (5.6 vs 3.9/week, P = .02, and 5.3 vs 3.9/week, P = .02, respectively). There were no significant differences between groups in reduction of fecal incontinence episodes (P = .49) and overall success rates (P = .67). After 1 year of treatment, the overall success rate was 47.1% in the intervention group versus 36.1% in the control group.

CONCLUSIONS: There is no additional effect of enemas compared with oral laxatives alone as maintenance therapy for severely constipated children.

Answer: 
Here is my not very diplomatic response!  DrC.

Interesting, here is an admission of up to a 30% failure rate for 5 years of “top down” laxative use in dealing with fecal incontinence for severely constipated children.  1, 2, 3, 4, 5 years and a 30% failure rate!  That result could occur via time and trial and error alone!  This is the same research group that showed the colon does not completely restore even after 4 years of the successful remission of fecal incontinence!  Their innovation here was to add enemas to their standard treatment protocol.  No training aspect was introduced, just so called “maintenance therapy” to assure repeated "clean outs?"  Really, does the medical profession wish to "maintain" fecal incontinence?  How odd!  This would appear to be a variation on, "First do no harm," but adding on, "and do no good?" Why is that?  They did not use enemas in a rational bowel retraining protocol such as that pioneered by Soiling Solutions.  Basically, these authors used a “brainless” approach to the treatment of encopresis or fecal incontinence.  The authors left out the critical component of a normal reflex arc engaging colo-rectal signals>>a brain connection with sitting on toilet stool cues>>voiding reflex.  The authors appear to be trying to improve on “maintaining” the dominant prepotent sequence of colo-rectal signals>>brain-wherever, including the toilet stool>>holding reflex!  My hope is that now they will do a follow up with the Soiling Solutions protocol to reprogram the necessary and desired BRAIN mediated VOIDING reflex arc.  I would be pleased to offer free copies of my Clean Kid Manual for any such research project. DrC.

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